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May 15, 2009

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Aisha O'Brien

Thanks for the link!

I really know very little about city planning, but I think a good idea is to expand your map and perhaps make an interactive google map where people can adjust your idea to the way they think it should look. You could then aggregate that info and show RTC what people really think about where the buses should go.

I don't know how much resources your have at your disposal, but it would be a really cool thing to see. I think someone at the J-School did that. I could look into it if you like :)

urbanblog

I've been thinking of ways to democratize this process, but for the short term I'm leaning toward a more static survey mechanism. If you have a j-school colleague who has created a visualization like that they should take it public.

For my part from an urban planning perspective what I'm trying to do is identify the shape and form of the metro area to be served by a given high-capacity, high-frequency transit system. This manifsests itself in maps like this that I create from time to time and is by necessity abstracted from the road map to a degree. Working from collected data would certainly produce a more compelling picture.

Justin

What about the McCarran loop?

urbanblog

Hey Justin - great question. I'll answer it with an answer and with a question :)

The short answer is the McCarran Loop is not on this "map" for the same reason no actual streets or highways are visible. I purposefully left out the actual street grid that this map overlays because I'm not trying to suggest "we'll run a vehicle down street x or y" What I'm trying to suggest is "people need to go from home to work and other destinations and back" That is, I'm trying to identify actual travel patterns and provide an idea of a utility that could serve those needs.

Put another way, to me, saying "Let's run a vehicle around McCarran" is kind of like saying "I'm going to run an extension cord from the basement to the hall closet". What are you going to plug in in the hall closet? Or is the hall closet the source of all the outlets in your home? If so what are you going to plug in in the basement?

So I'll get to the question I have for you: what critical origin or destination on the McCarran Loop does not appear to be served by this map? Try not to think about how you use McCarran in a car, but rather where you need to travel to and from.

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